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What these boxes are called, and where the names mislead

The three families in this dataset have no agreed names. The same box is a Eurobox, a euro crate, a stacking tote, an industrial tote or a "KLT box" depending on who is selling it, and two of those terms also mean something else. common_names in containers.csv carries the search terms; this file says which ones are safe.

Verified 27 July 2026 against the four catalogues in listings.csv.

The names in common_names

Terms marked captured appear verbatim in a listing in listings.csv. The rest are ordinary trade usage in that market, offered as search terms — treat them as leads, not as evidence.

Euro stacking containers

Term Where Status
Eurobox, Euro container, Eurocontainer Europe, general captured
Euro crate, stacking crate UK, NL captured
Stacking tote, straight-wall tote US trade usage
Industrial tote US, generic trade usage
KLT box vendor usage captured — see the trap below
KLC occasional trade usage
Eurobehälter, Eurokiste, Stapelbehälter Germany trade usage
Bac gerbable, bac Euronorme France trade usage
Caja apilable Spain trade usage
Stapelbak Netherlands trade usage

Attached-lid containers

Term Where Status
Attached lid container, ALC UK, EU captured
Attached top container, ATC US trade usage
Attached-lid tote, distribution tote US trade usage
Hinged-lid crate general trade usage
Crocodile-lid box UK UK retail copy, for a recycled-material range; not in these captures
Hudson box US colloquial, after the vendor Hudson Exchange
Industrial tote US, generic trade usage
Klappdeckelbehälter, Deckelbehälter Germany trade usage
Bac à couvercle solidaire France trade usage

"Hudson box" is a genericised vendor name, like Hoover for a vacuum cleaner. It is in common_names because people search it, not because it denotes a standard — Hudson Exchange sells US-footprint totes (55.6 × 38.6 cm and similar), not 600 × 400 Euro modules, so a "Hudson box" is quite likely not palletisable on a EUR-1 the way an ALC from this dataset's 600 × 400 rows is.

VDA KLTs

Term Where Status
KLT, R-KLT, RL-KLT automotive, worldwide captured
Kleinladungsträger Germany — the term KLT abbreviates trade usage
Small load carrier, SLC EN 13199 language standard
VDA container, VDA 4500 carrier automotive standard
Automotive tote, returnable tote US trade usage
ESD KLT conductive variant, electronics trade usage (the one captured ESD listing is a euro crate, not a KLT)

Two traps

"KLT" is used loosely for boxes that are not KLTs. Salesbridges titles ordinary open-top euroboxes "Euro Container KLT Box" — 14 listings in these captures do it, at eight heights (18.5 to 43.5 cm) and on three footprints including 80 × 60, none of which is on the VDA 4500 grid of 147.5 / 213 / 280 mm or within the EN 13199 600 × 400 cap. A real KLT is a thicker-walled returnable carrier on that height grid; build_listings.py therefore classifies on the R-KLT / RL-KLT product line and SKU prefix, never on the word "KLT" alone. If you filter this dataset by name rather than by type, you will pick up euroboxes and call them automotive carriers.

"Tote" means opposite things in different markets. In US usage a tote is any industrial container, tapered or straight, lidded or open. In UK usage it leans towards the attached-lid product. "Industrial tote" therefore sits in common_names for both the Euro and ALC families, which is correct and also useless as a discriminator. Discriminate on type, lidded and nestable_when_empty, never on the name.

The reliable way to tell them apart

Euro stacking container Attached-lid container VDA KLT
Walls straight sloping straight
Lid separate purchase integral, hinged separate
Nests empty no ~75 % no
Height grid manufacturer's choice manufacturer's choice 147.5 / 213 / 280 mm
type euro_stacking_container attached_lid_container vda_klt_container

Names are for finding rows. type, lidded and nestable_when_empty are for using them.